One of my favorite whitewater kayaks (probably because it was the one I learned to paddle in) is the Liquid Logic Hoss. The Hoss is an older model and was once classified as a creek boat before the Jefe was available, but its true calling is a big water river runner with plenty of room inside for even large paddlers. It has a planning hull and is extremely stable punching holes or crossing eddy lines. This makes it a great boat for novice paddlers to learn in and quickly build confidence. The Hoss is the larger model of the family that includes also the Trigger and Lil' Joe. Hoss: length 7' 10" width 26" weight 42 lbs volume 70 gal. paddler weight 160 - 245 lbs